This week on Keep Going, I sat down with Judy Kadylak. She’s a leadership coach who works in psychedelic integration. That sounds like two different jobs, but she’s found something interesting in the overlap: people trying to lead others without knowing how to sit still with themselves.

Judy’s focus lately has been on dopamine. Not the abstract brain science stuff, but the actual patterns we fall into when we’re hooked on cheap rewards—scrolling, snacking, constant stimulation. She started noticing it in her clients. Then in herself. Social media was rewiring her days. So she tried a detox. Not the biohacking kind. Just a hard pause on the hits: no phone in the morning, fewer distractions during the day.

It worked. It changed how she felt about work, motivation, and focus. She started building it into her coaching—especially for clients who wanted to use psychedelics as part of their growth. She found that without cutting down the dopamine noise, even a solid psychedelic session could feel flat. The insights didn’t land. The breakthroughs didn’t stick.

Now she’s running a group program around the detox idea. It’s a month long. It starts simple—don’t touch your phone for the first hour of the day. She says that alone can change how your brain handles reward for the rest of the day. Most of her clients don’t come in meditating or reflecting. But a week or two in, they start to.

Judy's not militant about it. She doesn’t tell people to quit social media. She helps them figure out their triggers and build space between the trigger and the habit. The point isn’t to eliminate pleasure. It’s to reset how we relate to it.

If you’re interested in her program, check out judykadylak.com.

I’m still not sure I’m ready to give up my morning scroll. But Judy makes a strong case for at least trying. We can’t talk about leadership or growth if we’re afraid to sit still. And maybe we’re not failing—we’re just running low on quiet.