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Startup Show: Rethinking Game Growth in the Age of Telegram, Tokens, and Real Fans
“When you're going through hell, keep going." This podcast is about failure and how it breeds success. Every week, we talk to remarkable people who have accomplished great things but have also faced failure along the way. By exploring their experiences, we can learn how to build, succeed, and stay humble. The podcast is hosted by author and former TechCrunch and New York Times journalist John Biggs. He also hosts the Startup Show with Grit Daily, a podcast focused on brand new startups. If you’d like to appear on Keep Going, email john@biggs.cc. If you’d like to pitch on the Startup Show, please email Spencer Hulse (Spencer@gritdaily.com). Our theme music is by Policy, AKA Mark Buchwald. (https://freemusicarchive.org/music/policy/)
Startup Show: Rethinking Game Growth in the Age of Telegram, Tokens, and Real FansDeLabs ships games over Telegram, a brand new place to find users.
In this week’s Startup Show, I talked to Quinn Kwon from DeLabs Games. She’s helping rethink how we make, launch, and grow games. And it doesn’t look anything like the traditional model. Instead of throwing money at ads on Google or Facebook, DeLabs is building games that grow inside messaging platforms—Telegram, Line—and reward users directly for helping spread the word. This is Web3 gaming, but without the jargon. It’s about incentives. It’s about community. And it’s about meeting players where they already are. Their newest game, Boxing Star X, launched on Telegram and Line, two apps people are already using every day. No installs. No logins. Just a link, a tap, and you’re playing. Since February, they’ve pulled in over 700,000 users. Not from ad budgets, but from shared links and organic network effects. The idea here is simple: marketing budgets should go to players, not platforms. If someone brings a friend into a game, why shouldn’t they be the one who gets rewarded? DeLabs is doing that through token rewards and referral incentives, but they’re also trying not to let that mechanic overpower the game itself. If the only reason people show up is to earn 50 cents, the game dies fast. There’s a tension here between financial motivation and creative integrity. Quinn’s clear-eyed about that. Right now, most of Web3 gaming still leans speculative. But they’re working to build systems where both types of players—the ones who play to compete and the ones who play to earn—have a place in the same ecosystem. It’s also a reminder that markets are different. A $1 reward might mean nothing to a U.S. player. But in other regions, it’s a real incentive. That shapes behavior. And DeLabs is designing with that in mind, from leaderboards for high-spenders to basic play modes that reward steady, daily engagement. What stood out to me most was how they’re building games like Boxing Star X not just as entertainment but as a community layer inside existing social platforms. There’s no jump from app store to app. The game lives where the people already are. And the reward system is built into that layer—native, social, and real-time. For game developers, especially indie studios, this offers a playbook that sidesteps the algorithm arms race. For players, it’s a signal that gaming can feel less extractive. And for anyone paying attention to where the internet is going—especially at the edges of tech and culture—it’s a case study in how things might grow from the bottom up instead of top down. You're currently a free subscriber to Keep Going - A Guide to Unlocking Success. For the full experience, upgrade your subscription. © 2025 John Biggs |





Keep Going University: Your Personal Digital Detox Plan
Keep Going University: Your Personal Digital Detox Plan
Inspired by Judy Kadylak’s interview on the Keep Going podcast
Introduction
We live in a world built to overstimulate. Social media, streaming apps, processed foods—everything is designed to give us a hit of dopamine. That’s the brain’s reward chemical. The problem? Too much of it dulls your natural motivation, focus, and ability to sit with hard feelings.
Judy Kadylak is a leadership and psychedelic integration coach. Her work centers on helping people—especially leaders—cut through the noise. Before real growth can happen, she says, people have to reset their relationship with dopamine. That’s where the digital detox comes in.
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This four-week plan is designed to help you do exactly that. It’s not about quitting everything forever. It’s about stepping back, paying attention, and making better decisions.
First, check out Judy’s interview this week then read on for a four week Detox plan and downloadable worksheet, available only to paid subscribers.
Keep Going: Dopamine Detox and Why You Can’t Sit Still
This week on Keep Going, I sat down with Judy Kadylak. She’s a leadership coach who works in psychedelic integration. That sounds like two different jobs, but she’s found something interesting in the overlap: people trying to lead others without knowing how to sit still with themselves.
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